I’ve been making some manual tweaks to optimize my BiB results from the Adaptive Single Target strategy for Havoc lately. Some of these optimizations are based on what I believe is a limitation of the Adaptive strategies. Some appear to be some minor nuances of stat allocations. All BiB recommendations and tweaks in this post were done using the Adaptive Single Target strategy on 10/21/2017 around midnight CDT.
First things first, here is my AMR export string:
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Here are the simulation reports showing a net ~6.2% DPS increase from manually overriding some of the Adaptive BiB suggestions:
Original BiB recommendation - 1,378,097 DPS
Swap Soul of the Slayer for Anger of the Half-Giants - 1,396,154 DPS
Note: this is the setup that is currently being recommended for me by BiB today using export string above.
Edit: Sorry for removing clean formatting here, the forums would only let me include 2 links since I’m technically a “new user”. Maybe a mod can clean this up for me?
Swap Cinidaria, the Symbiote for Delusions of Grandeur
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1,444,130 DPS
Note: this swap actually changes 3 gear slots because switching from a legendary belt to shoulder would break the T20 4 piece set.
Swap Vial of Ceaseless Toxins for Crit Stat Stick
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- 1,453,576 DPS
Swap 930 crit/mastery boots for 935 haste/crit boots
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- 1,463,205 DPS
So, the first thing that stands out is that Delusions of Grandeur are responsible for about half of the overall increase in DPS between the lowest and the highest sim. This is the part that I would expect the BiB optimizer to have a difficult time with. I am not sure what fight duration was used to produce the adaptive strategies, but it is most likely a duration that does not favor this particular legendary.
In the sims that I ran, DoG was always sufficient to produce a 3rd Meta cooldown that I otherwise would not have been able to use for a fight duration of 320s +/- 16%. I used this duration based on my guild’s most recent Mythic Goroth kill. Prior to this week, I had not done a Mythic Goroth and I was running the same set of sims to improve my BiB results with a 170s +/- 16% sim to represent our most recent Heroic Goroth kill. In that situation, DoG provided 2 meta uses instead of 1, so I got similar results by locking in that particular item.
Aside from that, BiB seems to be slightly overvaluing the Vial of Ceaseless Toxins. I’m not really sure why that is, but I don’t really have a problem with it. I actually think this trinket is my best option on any fight that has adds that die quickly enough to proc the cooldown reset on the trinket. For pure single target though, the crit stat stick is outperforming it in the sim and likely would in practice as well because it doesn’t require any play input to optimize.
The adaptive strategy is also slightly favoring mastery over haste for me right now. Mastery is still a very low value stat for Havoc. I’m sure haste begins to lose effectiveness once we get close to being effectively Fury capped by GCDs. With over 50% crit and 19% haste, I may actually be fairly close to that point. However, running these sims is still showing haste slightly ahead of mastery.
One other thing worth noting: a few of these sims have no gem in the Anger of the Half-Giants ring. The export string I used during these sims was made immediately after I got that ring, before gemming and enchanting it. The export string above was made after gemming and enchanting the ring, but should be identical otherwise. The BiB tool was not always putting a gem in the ring after I updated my locked slots. I’m not sure why this was happening. The missing 200 stat gem may have more to do with some of the minor DPS changes between sims than the actual gear changes themselves.
The biggest takeaway that I get from all of this is that the BiB optimizer might benefit from an ability to customize the fight duration for which you are trying to optimize gear. For Havoc Demon Hunters, DoG is among the best legendaries in situations where it can get you an extra use of Metamorphosis and it is among the worst in situations where it cannot. I know other classes likely have similar situations occurring with the Convergence of Fates trinket. Allowing some customization on fight duration for BiB might help people build different gear sets for different fights to take advantage of these items when they are at their best and swap them out when they are at their worst.