Custom Stat Weights & Gear Filter - Not working?


#1

Okay so two things. First of all, I’m trying to use my own stat weights, simply to build a set to use specific stats (PvP, mostly). I know how AMR likes to use their own strategies, but I don’t need that for what I’m trying to do with this; I don’t need AMR to optimise me for a raid boss or whatnot.

I’ve ran a simulation, I have a custom gearing strategy, and can edit my own weights. When I edit, save, and set this strategy - even if I set, for example, Haste to 0 and Mastery to 10 - it still tries to use things like Haste Enchants for Best in Slot.

Secondly, I’m trying to search for gear to manually put the correct items I want into the slots. Searching for something like “Dread Gladiator” in the helm slot comes up with “No items match your filters. […]”. There are options to enable raid/dungeon content drops, and ilvl restrictions - but not a PvP option any more like there used to be. Is this intended or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.


#2

I would need a link to your custom strategy – if you set haste to a low weight it shouldn’t use haste enchants.

Our pre-defined gear lists might not have PvP gear in them… it will load any item that you actually own though. I never figured out the specific variations of PvP gear available… I could try to add that if I get a little more information from some PvPers. The site is mostly focused on PvE, so we don’t get a lot of demand for PvP gear/optimizations.


#3

Sorry I had completely forgot about this post. Still need help though if available. Been a while since I checked the custom strategy but it should still be what it was when I originally asked:

https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/a8334b907cd74439b8a76c3d56296419?weights=true&strategyId=e42b1aaf2def4050aea7c56c8d4755c4

My export string for the character if you need it

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I just checked it with the weights I set and it’s still trying to force Haste and weird Azerite traits (that’s a different story, I also can’t figure out how to get it to pick those, no matter what numbers I put into the different boxes for their weights).

I’ve checked the new customize section but it’s not quite enough for either of my needs as much as it’s appreciated for other things. For example, as a Sub Rogue I might want one “First Dance” and two “Battlefield Precision” for PvP, whilst stacking Mastery. I can’t really get that. I can get it to choose First Dance, but it doesn’t even suggest BFP at all with the Customise section.

I understand it’s a PvE focused site though, don’t worry too much. I would be happy if we could go to a simple advanced mode where we can play with our own weights like we could originally even if you have to warn us that it’s wrong and such. That’s when I really liked AMR, it was “basic” in that sense that I could do things that I wanted to do, even if not “optimised”.

Thanks again.


#4

I think it is choosing the haste weapon enchants because custom strategies do a straight-up DPS estimate for special effects (like enchant procs, trinket procs, azerite procs, etc.). Changing stat weights won’t have an impact on the estimated score for the proc using that technique.

(Also, you don’t need the really high caps on mastery and versatility… that won’t do anything because you would never reach the caps.)

At one point we had a full-custom mode where you could enter in the value of everything by hand. Almost nobody used it though, so we stopped maintaining that approach. We might add it back at some point if we have time.

In your particular case, you seem to know precisely what you want. I would recommend just locking in the extras that you want: mastery enchants on your weapons, and the specific azerite trait combos. The optimizer will work around that, and you can use your custom strategy to stack mastery, or set a preference for high mastery with the new customization feature.


#5

The problem I’m having is that even changing those weights and adding the really high caps is that it never goes for them at all, not just weapon enchants, but gems, ring enchants or gear in general. The high cap was just to see if it would make a difference.

I want it for finding gear (especially on alts), for example, an easy way to see the PvP items that you get from capping the weekly Conquest Points - Do I want the [made up example] belt with high Mastery, low Crit, or High Versa, Low Mastery? Azerite items are easier because you go by the traits. That kind of decision isn’t as obvious when AMR is trying to go for Haste when you ideally don’t even want it (for what I want).


#6

When I tried your strategy, it consistently went for mastery gear and used mastery gems and ring enchants…


#7

You’re right, it has changed the gems/enchants since I last checked. The weapon enchants are Haste though, as you mentioned already.

Another problem I’m still currently having is finding gear, is there a way to enable PvP gear (with a rating level for item level jumps on top I suppose?) like we used to be able to? I don’t see it under the options where ilvl/raid difficulty/m+ level etc is, so if I disable every other source, it just keeps my current gear on. I can’t even search the term Gladiator, it’s an empty search.

On a side-note, when looking for BiS, and clicking on an item, the drop down menu consists of gear that I have disabled - Battle for Dazar’alor, world quests, world boss’, m+ etc. Is this intended?


#8

Yeah right now the item lists for Best in Slot will contain the entire “standard” list. Only the filtering controls right next to it are in effect. You can use the text search box to narrow it down, it is pretty flexible, e.g. you can search for anything in the item name, source, any combination of stats, etc.

Do you have any good resources (or just know) how PvP gear is rewarded? Which items you can get, from which activities, and at what base item levels?