Gear Ranking: Version 3

If you run a custom gearing strategy, in some cases it can give you a tiny bit more accuracy around e.g. trinket and relic suggestions to pair with your currently equipped legendaries and specific talents.

In most cases, it’s not really worth the effort.

To get more accuracy than the adaptive strategies, you really need to go down to the “bare metal” and do actual simulations. We’ll be creating a way for you to auto-configure a batch of simulations from gear in your bags very soon if you wish to do this and let your computer crank to squeeze out that last bit of theoretical accuracy.

I just spent 5-10 minutes trying to track down the latest set of computed DPS specs from OP above.

I have an idea, Could we perhaps update that list at the “Global Netowkr Progress” forum post in future?
http://blog.askmrrobot.com/global-network-progress/

I would like to contribute but I am on a laptop which overheats so it sounds like it’s not recommended. But none of my 2 main classes have progress above. Trying to see if I can set up global network on another machine to help.

Would be motivational to see progress and still to do somewhere.

At this point you can assume that all specs will be available around 7.3.

I’m hoping all DPS specs next week sometime, with tanks/healers to follow after that.

Updated the main post – we’re doing a 7.3 update today, and then cranking out updated strategies as fast as we can. The more people who join the Global Network, the better!

These updates will focus on 7.3 and continuing to raid in Tomb of Sargeras, and will not include rankings for Antorus set bonuses and trinkets yet. We will do another update for Antorus when it is closer and we have better data about the items.

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Just posted an update with the first of the recalculated 7.3 gearing strategies. This should fix up the errors people were getting with frost DKs and feral druids. Over the next several days we will be steadily updating all other specs, so stay tuned!

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Posted another update with a few more specs (Havoc, Balance, Windwalker, Elemental, and Fury). This should fix up the weirdness people were seeing with Balance and Havoc.

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Updated with outlaw, affliction, and our first healer adaptive strategy: mistweaver, mythic+!

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I updated Destruction warlocks today as well.

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Posted an update that fixes a few bugs with specific talent combinations for certain specs, notably Arcane and Subtlety AoE strategies.

This updated included new data for:

  • Shadow (single and multi-target)
  • Arms (single and multi-target)
  • Assassination (multi-target)
  • Fire (single-target)
  • Subtlety (single and multi-target)
  • Havoc (single and multi-target)
  • Demonology (single and multi-target)
  • Feral (single and multi-target)
  • Retribution (single and multi-target)

Posted another update with new data for:

  • Unholy
  • Balance
  • Fire (multi-target)
  • Frost
  • Assassination

Another Update!

  • Windwalker
  • Outlaw
  • Protection Paladin

Wait… a tank?? Yes! Our first tank Adaptive Strategy is available for Protection Paladins! We will be rolling out all other tank (and healer!) specs over the next 1-2 weeks now that we have the system working.

IMPORTANT! For tanks, you must pick the appropriate difficulty level that you wish to gear for! Gearing for Heroic bosses is much different than Mythic – you can switch to more DPS-oriented gear at a much lower item level. Same idea with Mythic+, we have provided two general ranges that roughly correspond to a heroic-geared raider and mythic-geared raider.

Please let us know how it feels and if you have any questions!

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Updated all adaptive strategies for Mistweavers. We have three: mythic+, raid healing, and a raid healing strategy that uses a different style, focusing on Whispers of Shaohao and Effuse.

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For several month playing affliction warlock I find BiB and Upgrade Finder features quite useless… I getting totally crap suggestions in trinkets and in gear in general. I understand that it is machine learning, the threshold, random and etc… But when BiB suggests me to switch 800 mastery to versatility only for the reason of item have 5 ilev more and drop dps by 50k, it makes me frustrated. I used askmrrobot on TOS a lot of times, but on Antorus it became much worse, almost useless… The only function I can use now is the simulation. I slightly disappointed of an evolution of askmrrobot.

@primegrid If you’re still watching this, could you provide the gear string and strategy you are seeing these results for? If there is a genuine issue with the gear recommendations, I think we’d all like for it to be resolved. 50k should be outside the targetted error, unless your sim dps is above 2.5m (which i think is still rare outside of multi-target situations).

Current gear:
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/f86c931013294b729b203ba24aa921cb
Suggested:
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/3f0adc511bd34dde9c2aeb1275525f85
Strategy: https://i.imgur.com/c0ORGww.png

Can you send us your addon string? I have an idea of why it’s a lot lower but I need your string to be able to test it.

Thanks!

Do you have the pantheon trinket count set in the filter menu on your character page? In the simulator you have it set to 20, which greatly increases the value of Norgannon’s.
Ex:

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The pantheon configuration is definitely helped in decreasing dps difference, thank you. But I had that problem even before trinket, it suggested me worse setups. I will post the strings if it happens again.

Twitchy took my guess out of my mouth.

Here are the results of BiB after setting trinket setting to 20

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They are very close at this point. within a 0.5% Margin of error.