New Advanced Customization Features

Today’s update contains a beta of our new advanced customization features! Ever wished you could tell the optimizer to get exactly one of your favorite azerite power… or go for a different ratio of secondary stats? Now you can!

We have a complete tutorial on the blog: Optimizer Customization Tutorial

Note: this is a beta! Let us know if you encounter any issues or have any feedback. It is only available on Best in Bags right now, but after it is in beta for a couple weeks, we will be adding the same functionality to the Best in Slot feature.

Quick version of how to use it

  1. Start Best in Bags like normal, pick your strategy, set up your general options, talents, major essence, etc.
  2. Click “Customize Strategy” or just click on the “Customize” tab next to the setup tab
  3. Change stuff on the Customize tab to your liking, press Best in Bags!
  4. After you get your result, you can still lock things in and exclude specific items just as before to give you that fine-grained control.

Differences from before

  1. The old customize tab that showed a handful of alternate azerite+stat combos has been removed in favor of this new approach.
  2. These new customization options will also impact the Upgrade Finder! That has been a big request from people since we released the older version of the customization features. There is one exception: customize azerite rules are a bit tricky to assign a numeric “ranking” in the upgrade finder… so we’re still thinking about that one. But you can always use the search box to find azerite gear with the powers that you care about in the Upgrade Finder, just type in the name of a power to filter it.

What about the old custom gearing strategies?

Try out these new features for a bit. Depending on how people like it, we are considering dropping custom gearing strategies and letting these new features replace them. The old custom gearing strategies simply don’t have enough data to work that well… and they already take quite a long time to run. We feel that this new approach is a much easier way to get the optimizer to do something custom. Feedback on dropping custom gearing strategies in favor of this new customization approach (either for or against) is welcome. (Please be nice either way.)

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The essence preference don’t seem to work. Picked 3x double damage -45 levels, 3x Nothing personal, 0 blightborn infusion, 0 dagger in the back. Ran best in bags and got none of the preferences selected.

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Could you allow us to add some value to Stamina the way you let us customize the value of secondary stats?

Use case:
If there’s an item that is a big ilvl upgrade, but due to poor itemization is a 0.01% decrease in HPS or DPS, I might still prefer to equip that because the increase in Stamina is worth more than the trivial decrease in HPS or DPS.

If you post your addon export string, we can try to reproduce your case and see why it isn’t choosing the azerite powers that you made rules for.

@terence I’ll add that to the list of possible extra features – a way to give some consideration to stamina for non-tank specs.

I love this feature, and have been waiting for it for some time! Is there a way to have this also carry over into best in slot? I dislike an azerite trait and would like to know what my BiS would be without it. Thanks for this regardless. Great job!

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I was experimenting with the customization options. Using the export string below I set secondaries to 1000 ver, 200 crit, 200 mas, 2600 haste. I then selected azerite trait “Callous Reprisal”, Stack to 3, -45 ilvl treshold. Pushing bib now will not change my traits at all. Even though I got that trait on several azerite pieces (all three) it will not select it.

However, if I now go and uncheck “Customize how secondary stats are allocated” and press bib again, then it will select these traits on all three of my pieces.

Considering the azerite pieces don’t have any secondaries it should not be affected by if I prioritize some specific secondaries, so I expect that both cases above would set “Callous reprisal” on all my pieces.

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I would very much like to ditto this feature. Particularly so I can see that my customisations are set correctly since I’d be able to see if the BIS reflects where I want to be aiming. But this customisation is absolutely excellent! Thanks guys <3

@chrischowen Read the first few sentences of my original post above, I think it might answers your question!

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I’ll take a look… seems there’s some conflicts going on where different parts of the optimization are overriding each other.

Posted an update that should fix various issues with the new customization features posted in the last couple days.

We also added an “At least one” option for Azerite rules. This will make sure to get at least one of the specified trait, but then leave it up to the optimizer to decide if it should get more than one or not.

Hey folks, First off, thanks so much for all the effort you put into this website and it’s tools. It is much appreciated. Having said that, I’m not a fan so far of the new customization options. I can’t get the azerite priority to pick the traits I want. BM hunter I use the DoD build so I have to have three DoD traits and that isn’t happening. I also need a huge amount of crit, thats kind of happening despite me setting everything to crit at the max. When I had the option to pick the alternate setups it seemed to work much better for me at least. And the sims I’m doing confirm that as well. This new system might just be TOO much customization for me. I liked being able to pick the crit heavy DOD trait build from the next page and let the system figure it out.! Thanks

If you post your addon export string, we can try to recreate your case. The azerite rules should be pretty literal – if you say you want 3 of a specific trait and it’s possible to get them, it should get them no matter what.

The secondary stat allocation we’re still tweaking – trying to strike the balance between reaching a person’s desired stat balance and also picking other valuable things (e.g. there might be a way to get more crit… but at the expense of a hefty chunk of agility… worth it or not?).

The azerite essence selection totally stopped working for me the other day even if i put - 1 million ilvls it does not pick my preferences.

Post your addon export string and the azerite power rules that you are trying to use – we will take a look and fix it up!

hi its for all my characters with any selection ill link one if its helpful

I need the string that you copy from the in-game addon to the website (not the other way around) – with that I can give this a try.

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i am trying 3 justicar with 5 ilvl loss for holy and 3 bulwark for prot also 5 ilvl loss. My spec order is prot>holy and mythic + 15 for prot / mythic + for holy.

I figured out why prot isnt selecting 3 - its already picking a chest piece 25 ilvls lower as BiS so it must be comparing the custom azerite to the higher ilvl piece not the BiS piece. I still dont know why holy isnt working for justicar though.

also impassive visage isnt a choice for holy for some reason

We need to know which order you’ve set your specs and which gearing strategy you’ve chosen, raid or M+.
Also you’ve come in saying BM hunter isn’t doing what you want and then given a paladin export.

The essence preference doesn’t seem to work for me. I pick “Exactly one” for Eyes of Rage and set it to sacrifice 1 million ilvls and it still does not pick the trait. I don’t have any other specs setup. I’ve tried “at least one”, “Exactly one”, and “As many as possible” and it will not pick the trait. Tried both Single-Target and Multi-Target strategies. The weird thing is that it did work the day the feature was released.

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