Ancestral Resonance

AMR BiB keeps putting this over actual BiS traits for raiding. This really needs to be looked into and fixed. It’s decent for Mythic+, but is till beat out by one of the 3 raiding traits Turn the Tide.

I can’t really give much feedback on this without more context. If you post your export string from the addon I could look at your specific case.

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“Ancestral Resonance
Your spells and abilities have a chance to increase your Mastery by 262 for 15 sec. Heroism’s duration is increased to 50 seconds on you, and Ancestral Resonance’s chance to activate is greatly increased during Heroism.”

That should be the last string I ran. but it really doesn’t matter since the release of 8.1 AMR values Ancestral Resonance over other traits that have deemed better in both raiding and Mythic+ by other sources.

These are the two sources I use mainly for finding optimal traits. if you notice Ancestral Resonance is not even mid teir in any scenario. yet AMR values it higher than any other trait ranked higher than it from both those sites.

only thing I can think of is AMR is valuing stat traits over other traits which is what would be causing the discrepency, or it’s placing to much value on Mastery.

Stat weights should be Crit>Vers>Haste=Mastery

Now I understand that you use more of a balanced optimal stat split system, but it still doesn’t make sense for this trait to be ranked higher than other traits that have been found to be better.

I missed this reply when you posted it, sorry.

We use a completely different method for ranking healing gear than other sources of information. We created a fully functional healing simulator that simulates a very realistic fight which includes real damage patterns, other healers, and a realistic use of spells based on the state of ally health.

For resto shaman especially, it is really hard (impossible?) to give a realistic value to mastery unless you are using a simulation model, in my opinion.

I am confident that our gear suggestions work well for healers. That being said, there is a lot more “fuzz” in healing gear recommendation than for a DPS spec. If you don’t want to use the traits that get recommended by default, use the “Customize” feature and then you can nudge the optimizer towards something else you prefer. As you can see, for healers there are a LOT of builds that fall in “Tier 1” - you really have a lot of different ways to gear that can all be equally viable.