Gathering on Gloves gives +DPS?

Right now Optimize BiB tells me that adding Shadowlands Gathering to my gloves will add 3.73% to my DPS… Sounds like the definition of a bug to me…

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I would need to see your full setup with all your settings: press the “help” link next to the big Best in Bags section header and follow the instructions to create a support snapshot, and copy it here.

That enchant does not increase your DPS of course, and our optimizer gives it no value either. Most likely there is something else that is different about your equipped gear and the optimized solution. Usually such an issue can be resolved by going in-game and activating each of your specs once, then export again.

What’s a Snapshot ID? It says to paste one in but doesn’t say what that is or where to find it. :frowning:

I tried pasting in the string from the addon but that wasn’t it.

I also tried switching back in forth in activating specs in game and then exporting the code again to the site and the results are the same. Gathering gives me so much more DPS! :slight_smile:

Thank you for the help!

click “help” next to the big “Best in Bags” section header. Then click “Create Support Post”. Copy the generated snapshot ID and paste it here, then we can see what you are seeing.

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The gain is from changing your soulbinds and conduits.

Thanks. That’s weird. Where can I see what it’s asking me to do for them? Also, why does it suggest a change if I have the Allow Conduit Respec box unticked?

If you click on the row of icons for your soulbind right above your gear, it brings up the full soulbind tree. I’ll get the display to highlight which nodes are different than your current setup in the next update.

So that checkbox is meant for if you have a lower priority setup (e.g. if your DPS spec is lower priority than your tank spec), it won’t suggest a soulbind tree path/conduits that would force you to change the ones you have picked for your tank spec to optimize for your DPS spec.

We always assume that you are willing to change your soulbinds/conduits for your top priority spec.

Thanks again. Really appreciate all the support. I think the highlighting would really help. I’ve been using the site forever and this is the first time I’ve been so confused on what’s going on. It’s new! I’m sure it’ll get better or I’ll get more used to it. :slight_smile:

Also, the way that looks is kinda funky. I’m using the latest version of Chrome with no addins affecting the page.

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This happen to me if i put the web site on one site of my screen (not enough wide space)
Maybe it’s because you are very zoomed in in the browser? (CTRL + scroll wheel)

On the topic of Soulbinds, I recently unlocked the 2nd soulbind on my hunter, Dreamweaver, but according to AMR, it is suggesting I stick with the 1st soulbind, Niya, for MM and Survival, even though I’m using a BM specific potency conduit in it.

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I’m guessing that Grove Invigoration is really good compared to any of the potency conduits I can use on the 3rd row of Dreamweaver, since Podtender doesn’t really have any dps benefit (apart from the obvious one where dead dps do no dps). Would I be correct in that assumption?

I mean, I have a fairly high res monitor, so I generally don’t have my browser try to fill up my whole screen. The page is taking up at least half of my 2560 pixels wide. You’d think that’d be enough?

Yeah, Grove Invigoration is probably better than your conduits at their current levels. It is sort of a weird system they have developed… keeping all of these things at very low power values. Later in the expansion the conduits will probably be better, but by then we’ll have the soulbinds unlocked.

I’ll fix that display issue – only happens when you have the screen narrowed. The site works just fine on narrower windows, but the experience is optimal at around 1600px wide.

Another thing to keep in mind: when you unlock a soulbind for the first time in-game, you need to at least activate the top node for the in-game addon to be able to register that you actually have the soulbind available.

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Thanks for all the help! The screen doesn’t have the overlap and the highlights look better.

I have both of my soulbinds active. It sure is interesting that the guides are saying Dreamweaver instead of Niya, but your computations definitely say Niya. My potency conduit is 184, so that’s as high as it goes for now. Swol may be right that the guides are thinking more long term instead of right now with what’s available?