Havoc Demon Hunter - Best In Bags

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The “Best In Bags” interface is recommending I equip and upgrade an odd choice of offhand weapon. It wants me to fully upgrade and voidforge a “Soulblight Cleaver”. I have the identical offhand weapon already upgraded as well as a far superior crafted weapon for that slot. When I click on that slot to show the upgrade options, it shows the upgraded version of that weapon and crafted version as being a superior upgrade.

This season has been a lot of phantom upgrades: the tool suggests spending crests or upgrading an item only to never recommend equipping it.

My expectation would be that the website knows that the crafted weapons are not unique equipped. As a crafted weapon, its secondary stats can be adjusted (this would be a new feature). And that upgrades that are correctly listed in the slot details are reflected in the main “exportable” recommendations without locking the slot.

As a wild guess, it seems to consider the “+1 sparkle” as a real embellishment ?

In general, off hand weapon damage is a small contributor to damage. It looks to me like the weapon is being swapped because of the mastery on the soulblight cleaver. The higher ilvl/weapon damage main hand will be most desirable, but then the off hand appears to prefer optimal stats to item level.

Best in Bags just looks at the items you have. If you were to re-craft your second spellbreaker’s warglaive to have mastery on it, it would be picked.

As far as why the optimizer picks the soulblight cleaver you haven’t upgraded yet - I think that is incidental. Since it does not cost crests to upgrade it, the optimizer just picks one, maybe the first in the import string. We could put a micro-optimization in there to use the one already upgraded to save 100g or whatever it is.

For the “phantom” upgrades - the upgrade finder is an estimate - we can’t run full BiB on each item (that would be super slow and cost-prohibitive). That is why you will sometimes get these discrepancies (which are almost always very small). Once you are at the point where upgrades are very small, you can see this happen more. We are constantly working on ways to improve the upgrade finder, as we know this is a pain point. It is one of those problems that is quite difficult to solve, even though it seems easy. We have big ideas for an improved upgrade finder, so we’re working on that.

I already have the exact weapon it is recommending, fully upgraded. But it will not pick it.

It wants the to upgrade a second one to obtain exactly the same secondary stats. Exactly the same weapon sitting in my bags.

I have a superior weapon by 14 item levels, with the same stats. It will not pick it.

to clarify, the superior weapon is the identical copy of the Soulblight Cleaver? I don’t see any other weapon in your bags with the same stats at a higher ilvl. We’ll take a look, this seems likely to be some obscure item data issue, where the optimizer can’t tell the difference between the two identical items. If you do the crest-free upgrade to the lower ilvl soulblight cleaver, does the issue go away?

I have 2 Soulblight Cleavers. Both appear in the website. I can click on the weapon slot and see them listed, the website shows them as in my bags.

Both are hero track. Both identical except : One fully upgraded to 276. The second is at 266 not upgraded.

As soon as the 266 one dropped, the interface recommended that I upgrade and voidcore the 266 one, ignoring the current one on the character. Before it had recommended that I voidcore the 276 one.

Yes, there must be an itemizer issue. Identical items +10 ilvls higher are listed as .25% downgrades.

I can look at this in more detail when I return, but it is possible that the option to upgrade items before running best in bags doesn’t consider cost right now… it simply sees two identical items and does not care which it picks.

We can add a post-processing step to try and do swaps with zero score change that lower potential upgrade material costs.