I really should use a dagger in my off hand over a 2nd tormented Bladed fist?

mdsjohna · June 20, 2026, 3:50am

Its 13 ilvl lower. Help me understand this.

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mdsjohna · June 20, 2026, 3:59am

Actual it thinks I only have one for some reason.

yellowfive · June 21, 2026, 4:01pm

I see both copies of the Tormentor’s Bladed Fists, but it slightly prefers the dagger in the off-hand for some reason. I’ll ask our rogue guy to take a look tomorrow.

Swol · June 22, 2026, 2:23pm

I will update this today sometime. It looks like the proc rate on fatal flourish was not being normalized to 2.6 weapon speed when a dagger is equipped in the off-hand, which would make having a faster weapon in off hand be over-valued.

Overall, the off hand weapon has a relatively small impact on your total output, since its damage does not contribute to much. It only contributes to off-hand autos and a little bit to pistol shot and between the eyes. Nothing else uses off hand weapon damage.

yellowfive · June 22, 2026, 7:40pm

We posted an update that should resolve this issue – reload the page and optimize again and it should show the new result.