Isn't Bwonsamdi's Bargain ranking a bit too high?

Hey there,

Would you mind explaining why Bwonsamdi’s Bargain is so high regarding trinket value whereas everywhere i look it seems to be on the “do not touch this crap” list.


So there was a very similar trinket in Legion: the Royal Dagger Haft. And pretty much everyone said the same thing: it was crap, never use it, etc.

The reasoning was usually something like… “it can only trigger once a fight, trinkets that can help you for the whole fight are better.” Or, “if you’re dying, then you (or your healers) are doing it wrong anyway.” Or… who knows what other logic people use. Most of the arguments (like those two) were very flawed. Maybe there is a better one floating around out there too… haven’t really looked.

Short version: we disagree. For most players trying to improve their toughness, Bwonsamdi’s Bargain is simply the best trinket out there. Similarly, talents like Purgatory are very powerful. These things really shine when you are learning new fights, and you or your team might make mistakes more often – it’s a free pass in a fight when something goes wrong: you time up a cooldown poorly, or a healer dies and things get messy, etc.

Once you have fights on farm, or you feel pretty tough and rarely find yourself close to dying, then sure, swap it out for something else. That goes for toughness-oriented trinkets and azerite powers in general though – many players prefer to shift into things that are more DPS-oriented as they gear up, or things that have hybrid benefit (e.g. stat procs have both offensive and defensive value, whereas an absorb proc is only good for defense, so as you get tougher, you might shift away from an absorb trinket/power. The toughness threshold on the optimizer can help with those kinds of choices).


Continuing the discussion from Isn't Bwonsamdi's Bargain ranking a bit too high?:

I have to agree that for farming this style of trinket isn’t ideal.
As a healer in Mythic Raiding during progression, having a cheat death capacity/trinket is really huge !

And knowing my tank have one of this, he wont be my top priority if i have to manage a difficult situation. For the conclave : their is a part where it’s really difficult for us Healer:

  • You’ve just killed Grong => the raid is taking dmg overtime for 8s (raid under 40% hp after it).
  • Pa’ku is going to do his AOE dmg ability => raid need to be full life
  • Kimbul is currently hitting like a truck our tanks
  • [hm] Krag’wa is jump inside the ring under Paku wings and bump two or tree people out (that will die is they dont received instant heal)
    This situation will happen every pull till people dont get bump. Their isn’t lots of possibility for this fight; or considered my team mates shouldn’t slack and be bump by Krag’wa. Then the trinket is useless. Or i can try to keep the failing people a live, then trinket of my tank will proc but i can save him later.

This situation is enough to compensate : DPS mistake, Healers mistake and Tank mistake what will often be what go for a wipe and what another trinket having +300 stats wont change mutch.