I see, that amr very likely replace items to that ones with int or mp5, so i must ask about one thing.
How exactly you calculate mana gain for us?
We have mana back from Sanctified Judgement and Spiritual Attunement. Commonly we trying to avoid any damage taken, but its rather impossible as melee. Also SoB and SotM give use great opportunity for free mana back (during twist even often). Then runes, potions, mana totem, JoW…
By just using seals, judgementm, CS and AW (core skills) in correct raid team ret should be oom after ~15 min, when with cons and exorcism (fillers) we can burn all mana in 2 minutes. Anyway only bad ret in good raid composition hasn’t mana for core skills to maintain 90% of overall dps and i don’t think, that this mana items are worth to keep fillers up.