Great Vault Upgrades confusing

Not Sure why between

Sash of the Stygian Sea
Hero 3/6
IL 616
3203 Armor
+2297 Agility
+13251 Stamina
+796 Crit
+563 Mastery

and

Enkindled Locket
Il 584
Veteran 1/8
+6140 Stamina
+2224 Haste
+1573 Mastery

The Program would tell me the locket is better. Shouldn’t the fact The HIgher IL and Potential Upgrade matter? Hero track vs Veteran?

I would need to see your specific case to comment – hard to say without knowing your spec, other gear, etc. The best way to do this would be to give us a snapshot via the “help” link, instructions on how to do that in this post:

Here you go. Thanks. I already picked the waist not wanting to waste 616 (I don’t pain staking go through Level* delves for 580 something gear

Snapshot Id
98bc65027e314dcc9284883f39f15e74

So for the great vault search, you have set your max upgrade level at 616. That will limit the upgrade potential of the waist item and make it rank a little lower. Keep in mind that with your settings you are saying that you will upgrade these items that you obtain from the vault, and thus you are comparing the final upgraded items, not the base items.

The main thing going on here is that jewelry is a bit different in that it has a large budget allocated to secondary stats, so you can swing your secondary stats a bit more with those slots than other slots.

The optimizer seems to prefer crit/haste/mastery for your particular talents and gear. Your current neck has versatility, so you would see a nice increase if you replaced it with a neck that had two of your better stats instead of just one. The other thing to keep in mind here is that often getting a balance of secondary stats increases the value of all secondary stats, e.g. you might be at a point where adding some haste is a bigger increase than usual.

You also need to factor in the relative item levels to your current gear. Your current neck is 597. Your current waist item is 603. With your settings for the great vault search, you are looking at a 606 neck upgrade and a 616 waist upgrade. Thus a comparison of a +9 ilvl upgrade to neck vs. a +13 ilvl upgrade to waist. That’s only a 4 item level difference… not that much.

Bottom line: everything seems to be working fine here. I understand wanting to go with the bigger item level upgrade, but with how they do gear in this game… sometimes the biggest item level upgrade won’t be the biggest improvement to your performance, which is why sites like ours even exist!

My reasoning for that was because if I go any higher, I guess the program thinks I currently have the mats to 'boost it to that level" I want see “As is” which was the better option.
Thanks for your perspective. I was getting "This is good vs that one if you can get this to “its max” when you currently have it at base etc.

The actual Neck was 584 It potential was 606 vs already 616 waist

Right – when you set your max upgrade level, you are saying that is the max level to which you are willing to upgrade any item.

The waist item is already 616, so it stays there. The neck item can go up to 606, so it upgrades to that level, which is less than your max level setting of 616.

If you want to compare the items without doing any upgrades, set your max upgrade level to the minimum value, or anything lower than the item level of the items in your vault.

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